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Christian Kyriacou | The House Whisperer: Feng Shui, Portals, & the Energetic Architecture of a Space

This episode an audio only version of the earlier episode correcting inconsistent audio levels - featuring Architect, musician, and Feng Shui Master Christian Kyriacou, The House Whisperer, joins us to explore energy, portals, and the deeper connection between you and your home.

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About this episode.

What if your home reflected your inner world—or even acted as a portal to other realms?

In this episode, we explore the hidden energy of space, etheric gateways, and how stillness and sacred geometry shape our experience of place. Christian's Past life memories and MORE!

We also discuss his creative project The VESICAN. Ajourney through light codes, cosmic memory, and awakening.

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Hey guys, welcome to the learn Feng Shui podcast where you'll learn Feng Shui from a classical point of view taking out the myth and superstition. So if you're interested in learning Feng Shui, Chinese astrology, all things Chinese metaphysics, as well as the superstitions and myths that connect it all, you'll enjoy learning fune with me. Hey guys, how are y'all doing? Today I have this very special guest on Christian Curyaku, internationally known as a house whisperer. He's an architect, philosopher, musician, and intuitive with a remarkable ability to read the energetic blueprint of both people and places.

With decades of experience, Christian works at the intersection of design, sacred geometry, spatial energy, and consciousness. His work goes far beyond traditional architecture. He explores the hidden dimensions of a space, including lay lines, vortexes, and what he calls etheric gateways, which is what we'll be touching on today, energetic portals. And this is believed to connect us to other worlds at higher states of awareness. Through his global teachings, presentations, including the most recent one at the International Feng Shui Summit, his meditative practices at sacred sites around the world, Christian helps people attune to the living intelligence of a place.

Today, we'll be exploring some of these powerful locations found in temples, churches, monuments, and natural landscapes, and how these spaces may serve as thresholds between dimensions. I'm so excited. Welcome today. Thank you for reminding me what I do. Lovely.

Good, good, good to be here, Candace. Thank you. I'm glad we finally connected. There was some time different differences. We just couldn't seem to internet connections and whatnot.

So, I'm very glad to have you on today. Uh just kind of first off, well you you mentioned you were just in Sweden. Is that that's correct? So did were you doing work there? Was that just vacation time?

No. No. Um my my partner's got a cottage there. We we've got a cottage there and um it's a 1 acre in the middle of a forest and it's a haven. We've got well drinking water.

Uh and it's really soft. It does wonders for your skin and your hair and and your health. And it it's a trek to get there to flight and a drive, but it's incredibly peaceful. Uh we have the odd deer going through the garden. And recently I've got some video of uh a couple of moosees just wandering into the gu, you know, into the land.

It's uh it's that kind of thing. And apparently there is a bear as well that wanders around, but we haven't seen him yet because they love honey. You put honey. They'll come for it. Huh.

So I I have I have taught in Sweden quite a bit um last year and in the you know early um 2000s uh in Stockholm and Goththingberg um as yeah um I don't do so much traveling now teaching um most of it's online cuz it's just a lot more practical but it it's great to travel and and work. Um, my longest trip was going to Hawaii to work on a project a few years ago. And currently the other biggest project I'm working on is a healing center on a Greek island with a Greek uh chap who's a good friend and he actually went through my academy training as well. And it's all being designed to all the principles I speak of, sacred geometry, Germany, and it's near an ancient um Greek site as well. You know, the site we're working on.

So, it's exciting. It's taking time. It's about been about five, six years on the project on and off, but he's buying more and more land plots. So, the the the project's getting bigger and bigger and uh really really interesting. Yeah.

So, I I was there a couple of years ago, year and a half ago on the site and there are lots of goats, lots of goats there and lots of wind. Yeah. So, um I I I love that sort of work. is really putting all the principles of fune house whispering into practice and and it's going to be an incredible healing center. I I really think that's something that's kind of been lost over time.

Again, we kind of talked a little bit before the intro where we talked about the principles of geommancy and just, you know, these these different ideas, you know, but I think it's something that's kind of been lost over time and in modern especially here in the US. I notice other countries you're from um you live in the UK right now, but a lot of the buildings in the UK, they follow a lot of these principles, I suppose. And I I really think it's something that's kind of been lost in the US. Yeah. Yeah.

It kind of needs flagship projects and then people will look and say, "Yeah, we we can follow that and uh do something similar and then I'd be happy to sort of help on something else or guide or advise, whatever." But it does need people to see, oh, it does work. And if you create a room that is a geometric proportion of X times Y, that heals certain diseases, especially ones with a capital C, which we're not going to mention the name of because in in England, it's actually illegal to say you can cure see 1951. Yeah. which is like, why not? You know, everyone else talks about it and they don't do it, you know, and they've been Yeah.

Give us your money. Let's have coffee mornings. We're going to heal it. I've been hearing that since I was a kid. Yeah.

Still haven't found a solution. Yeah. But people, they usually have to sort of go to Mexico and hide and all this sort of stuff. But that's another topic which Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

There's so many things that need Yeah. that even natural uh natural things. We know that. But this is ancient technology that we we touched on earlier. Geometry, proportion of spaces and also the location on the land.

This comes the geommancy building on vortexes. Particular vortexes will heal and enhance energy. Others will drain and kill you. Basically both both are valid because we need energy yin energy to break down compost heaps for example. And as we know, you know, ants, you know, love geopathic stress, very yin energy.

It's not good or bad. Bees create their nests on that and things. So on. So if you got a bee's nest, a wasp nest in a house, you change the g um the geopathic um harmonic. Mhm.

They go instantly. You know, you you don't have to kill them. And came across this years ago with ants going through people's, you know, rooms and houses. change the geopathic and they go wander somewhere else to find the geopathic. Oh, I need that in my backyard.

I have quite a bit of ants. But this is something um I I kind of came across in the late '9s soon after I was introduced to funray in 95 that you know these energy lines do attract um you know particular particular animals, insects um but they have a right to be there because that's a natural energetic of the earth. But if it's bothering us and our human life, then we just respectfully give them somewhere else to go and shift. But but it's not about my whole work is not about getting rid of but understanding the harmonics and the dynamics of any energy fusing our soul energy into that frequency that wavelength becoming it temporarily and moving myself to another part of the land. So that geopathic is moved.

Interesting. And this is how the ancients we used to do it. Yeah. So you know we don't have to the concept of getting rid of or space clearing to get rid of. If you try to get rid of something you're taking away the opportunity for someone to understand why that issue is there in their life.

Interesting. The whole concept of space clearing is actually more space alignment space purification. I would call it space alignment cuz what we're align what we are ultimately aligning to are the divine laws of of the universe the light codes. Mhm. And if I can and we all hold those 100% totally every single person the human body psyche energetic body contains all that.

So we don't have to go and learn anything or go to school or go to university. The teaching and as I teach in my academy training is to get people to remember to drop the veils as we said Plato talks about that we come into this life we've got the veils of non-remembering and we have to work hard to remember why we're here or who we are. Astrology helps us with that past life regression perhaps. Um so you mentioned light codes. That is something I wanted to discuss because uh explain exactly or if you can exactly what are the light codes that's interesting everything everything in the universe is vibration frequency everything absolutely everything you know atoms neutrons electrons etc um and um light and sound are light codes so they they're usually represented in light and color, light and sound and they can in a sense it's like one vibration of unity and then we get that splitting into two duality which everyone knows as yin and yang night and day you know good and bad and all this sort of thing but traditionally energetically it's always said to be 12 um divisions different aspects so we can see that in say you know things like sacred geometry and medicine these are laws laws that govern those.

But it's the same laws of harmony but directed channeled through a particular discipline. But it comes back to essentially the law of one, the law of harmony. And so because we hold those codes within our being, all we have to do if we're going to somebody's house to do a funray house whispering consultation is actually to do nothing. And this is what I train people for a year actually to do nothing. And the nothingness is the training to be in the present moment connected to source.

And you connect to the accashic field that contains all the knowledge of the universe including what your client needs, what the house needs, what the land needs. And if you can stand there knowing your divinity, the space has to fall into alignment. And so it's the non-doing but the being that allows the doing and the change to happen. And it will highlight what is out of sacredness for the client and in the client themselves because it's an inner outer mirror image of course what's going on in someone's home and to help the client actually see what is causing the issue. What programs are they running?

What is their belief system? You know a lot of the time it it's a lot around money. Oh, I've not got enough money flow. And my question is, well, what's your belief in money? Often I hear, oh, it's bad.

It's evil. I thought, where'd you get that idea from? Oh, my dad used to say that. It's really bad. You know, you're going to be seen.

And I'm thinking, well, that's not yours. But you're perpetuating that belief, but you can change that. I mean, I call that a programmed code. So you know I do a kind of process that I teach of um psychotherrapeutic regression but also quantum timeline shifting where I take people back to the source of that belief and recode it and then bring it back bring the person back to the present moment and we can get a person between 1 and 10 being the most horrendous traumatic intense level nine out of 10 a particular event and every event that's traumatic keeps repeating. That's like like the uh the discipline of, you know, repetition in psychology, psychotherapy.

We're going to keep repeating because we and our guides and angels and helpers are going to create our next moment to repeat what we haven't sorted. And so we meet our future tomorrow. Um and we've got that choice. So, so someone might start off with a trauma intensity of 9 or 10. And after 10 minutes of doing this, it's down to one or zero.

It's that quick. You don't have to spend 7 years of therapy to get there. Every time I do this with someone, it it's extraordinary. So ultimately, I I've come from a healing background because that woke up well probably when I was about 19 when I first met my partner, ex-wife, you mother to my three children who the oldest is 50 now. Um that sort of guess guess my age but uh and she was in hospital and suddenly I was just shown how to heal what she had.

I thought where did that come from? And I look back on it now but even then I thought wow and I could just put my hand over someone and it changed something. Yeah. And I began to understand years and years on you know and I would sort of walk particularly late at night when I was tired. I would come back from philosophy classes that I spent 25 years in learning Sanskrit, sacred geometry, sacred sound, the vic scriptures and so on and meditation and I would see I would see my hand moving and then I would see the the echoes of my hand moving which were energetic you know sort of smoky trails.

Yeah. And I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. And so that world of energy began to wake up. And as we touched on a bit earlier before we were recording, when when I was 12 years old, I suddenly thought I'm going to enroll in a psychology correspondence course. So I started getting that through and then I came across a Rosacruian material.

So I joined that and studied that for a few modules. Uh and and you know my parents you know from a very humble uh Greek criate part um um background um you know very heartbased very hardworking but they encouraged everything but I was I was kind of reluctant to tell them what I was doing. So I'd have to hide under the bedc clothes with a torch to uh to read which is crazy now. I'm sure they wouldn't have minded, but cuz they they got me and my brother uh my elder brother Tony into into music when I was 8 years old. So, so that that was again all part of the harmonic um aspect.

Uh so, so that awareness that there was something much greater in the universe. Oh, no, it's perfect. I was actually going to ask how how how you kind of got started on this. So, it sounds like it got started very young, but previously you also mentioned that you had past life memory. Yeah, it's um just sort of spasmodic and in fact they've increased since I started writing the book which is about five or six years ago.

Um um one of the memories uh which is a description in the book of going back to the uh the Roman coliseum uh and fighting and dying there. And when I did go to the coliseum in reality in 1973 or something, I felt so ill being there. It's like there was something. I don't think then I put it down to a past life, but when I look back now, I know I was there. I died.

And I think I know why I died, but maybe I won't go into that here. Um, and every time I look at any photos of it and when I was writing that section in the book, because the the two characters kind of me and my partner in a way through different lifetimes, but you know, it's in the book current, they go back, they're going back and forth through different time portals. That's all part of the story with different devices and experiencing and one of them is suddenly being thrown back into the arena on the sawdust with blood everywhere and trying to sort of get out of it through the um activating the golden orb which opens up into time travel machine to get them out and you know things like that. So even when I was writing that I was really there. Um and some some years ago probably about 20 odd years 25 years ago uh I went to Delelfi.

I've been there a couple of times in Greece, which is kind of like the heart navl of the earth energetically and a massive surprise because I didn't know it existed, but I started to walk up the hill from the main area where the amphitheater is and the temple of Apollo where um uh the ptheia would, you know, give the uh the oracle readings and went to the top and discovered there was a like a racetrack with seat eating on one side. Mhm. And I thought that's interesting. And as I stepped over the threshold, Mhm. I was suddenly in ancient Greece.

I'd stepped through two and a half thousand years. I could see the people sitting there and all the activity. It wasn't a memory. I was there. I'd stepped through a time portal.

Again, I write write about that in in detail and I could feel it, smell it. Um and my message has always been the same. The same with Atlantis, which is another memory um of talking to the elders about uh if you continue with the technology, you're going to destroy society, which of course we know that happened with Atlantis as well. Uh although Atlantis was an experiment that got shut down, I think five times, the last time being about 10,000 BC. Uh and that's when from there the the 12 tribes went out you know to different parts of the earth and again splitting the 12 tribes the 12 tribes of and and again I I I quote a lot of that historically correct in the book so many so so much of history and cultures are divided into 12 of course we got the zodiac zodiac um so it's a very common factor the 12 is a very geometric of course.

Um so, so in Dele I went to the elders who were sitting on this raised bit and you can see that on on mapping um aerial mapping and tried to tell them and I was chased away of course you know. Yeah. But but again I was like in unreality of a world to them looking like real but a ghost. Yeah. Um and they were seeing me like that and so in and out of time realities.

So this is all about parallel parallel existences. You know it runs right through the book. Um, but this is a reality of what everyone lives, but we think we're in the real world or the 3D world, but we're actually running parallel lives at the same time. And I've experienced this in kind of dreams at night and dreams during the day, which kind of the same thing, just different intensities. So, so that's one one aspect of the story.

And then, of course, the Atlantis thing, same thing. Going up to the chamber, telling them about the technology. And we've got Plato with us. Oh, that's that's the fascinating part of the story because when we go to meet Plato, which is the first chapter uh and we're talking about philosophy and all sorts of things and he talks about his dialogues and um there's jokes about, you know, all these Greek philosophers, they've all got beards. I you know, it's kind of me, you know, um I don't.

But being on Earth for a while, I start growing stubble and hairy chest, you know. Oh, yeah. So the the effect of earth vibrations which he ends up at the end of the book loving the earth people despite all the because they've got heart they've got that love is a beautiful quality there is a question of you know does he go back does she stay does he go back and then they have a child at the end and that child Aqualene is going to become the new earth priestess to guide the new era so that's kind of the bigger picture if you like but I won't say what happens in the books I want people to read too much to read. We definitely want to read it. Sounds amazing.

But the of course the initial one, the biggest one that I've left out is how this book started. Yeah. Yes. We'd love to hear. Um well, it goes back to 1993.

Mhm. And I think it was that year or the year before I'd gone to Egypt for the first time and only time this lifetime. And it was an extraordinary transformation because it was if if people haven't been to Egypt, for me it was like no other country. I've been to Hawaii, Tibet, China, lots of other European countries, but there's something so different about Egypt. It's like it's so easy to go into parallel realities and other dimensions.

Maybe it was just me that felt, you know, felt that, but um I think it's very different from any other culture because it was the closest to what we have from Atlantis. And perhaps not many people know that, but in the Grand Canyon was an Egyptian area. Yeah, I was recently on a podcast where we kind of talked a little bit about that. I think some there's so many different theories and one of the theories of course is this interdimensional gateway. Do you have a theory on those?

There are a lot of dimensional gateways everywhere. Uh I think I I showed in my um etheric gateways talk, you know, images of gateways and I've come across gateways and you certainly don't want to muck around with them because you could disappear and not know how to come back. Um that was one of my questions I was going to ask you. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean I've I've I've got uh I've got some mild ones here. I've got three three in the house and one in the garden here. Oh wow. Some people come into my living room and they say, "What's that?" And it's a very specific spot. And I've had downloads because I realized at one point I had the bed in that position and I'd be sleeping on it.

Oh, so that was interesting. Um, but yeah, gate gateways, portals, they exist everywhere. And even uh NASA, which I have no respect for because of all the lies they tell. Yeah. Um, you know, they are now scientifically discovering wormholes in space between the sun and earth and and they can measure them, but they keep changing.

Mhm. Um, but but for sure that there are caves in the Grand Canyon that are Egyptian and people have been there and seen and documented Egyptian artifacts and very strange writings. But of course, it's all shut off by the military now as you know, da da da, you know. Um, you can walk into the woods uh and find them. Um, but you need you to to actually go through one, you need to be um of a particular resonance to open the gateway.

Gotcha. So, for most people, you're going to be safe. You know, if you walk into one, I don't anything will happen. Um, is there ways to recognize if you're near one of these gateways? Um, I I see them.

I I I can look at space. I can look at a site and know there's a quality to it. There's just a knowing. Um and people say, "Can you train me to see that?" I say, "Well, I can train you to refine your energy field." And particularly with sacred geometry, cuz once once you get people to experience sacred geometry images, it reminds them that they they have that inside them anyway. And so all you're doing is activating all the merka fields and the platonic space frames which we are all made of.

And when you refine that that ability just to see and that you know I can you know I've got an open green in front of me. I've got Richmond Park you know sort of towards the back. But when I look in any open woodland or forest I can just see sacred spots. And in our in our land uh in Sweden, I just walk around and I'm drawn. And there's one particular spot that is got a very strong geopathic line.

And when you walk to it, everything goes silent. It is so silent. There is no movement in creation. That's a still point. Nourishing, not something to douse and get rid of, which is like what dowses do.

Oh, you know, you've got a geopathic line under your bed. Move the bed. Nonsense. That line is there because you've created it. It's part of your relationship to something.

So, let it be a gift to understand why you've created that. I was working with one lady who was recommended by a holistic GP. So, a real doctor and the problem was she had the geopathic stress. She couldn't sleep. So, he recommended move your bed.

She moved the bed to another room. Few weeks later, the geopathic came back. Move it to another room. Came back. Hey, you know, you are the you are the issue.

So, um, look at it. Deal with the issue. Getting rid of, as I said earlier with space clearing, if we come into alignment with what the frequency is of something and we don't judge good or bad, we are in alignment with it. Therefore, it can't harm us. We don't have to fix anything.

we come into alignment. That's my approach to everything. All the cures in Feng Shui is not to fix this or put a windchime up or a crystal. All that's great. It creates energy.

You know, not knocking it in a way I am. But it's not what sorts things. It's our alignment to them. If our intention of placing something brings us into alignment, then great. Use a crystal or a windshine or a three-legged toad if it doesn't hit you.

Yeah. No, I I rarely use fune items. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I call them adjusting the environment.

Yeah. Yeah. I think one question I had for you is you talk about the etheric gateways, the sacred sites, but you also talk about everyday portals and I think that's one thing we kind of didn't touch on is these doorways to our homes and them being, I suppose, portals into our world, maybe. Yeah. Yeah.

our front door. We program it to allow people to come in, not come in, the flavor of it, what we and most people do it subconsciously because we in any doorway we have to stop, get a key, go in and so there is an attitude, there is an emotion that's left on the doorstep and it's what I encourage people to do when when I'm teaching is just walk along the street like here rows and rows of houses and just look at the front door. Read it, feel it. Don't go past it, though, because you don't have permission to do that. It's got a story.

Like I say on my website, every every front door behind every front door is a story of people's lives. But you can read the essence of those lives from that front door cuz it holds the code. It holds the memory. It holds the emotion of everyone who's been through that. And it will be stronger of the people who are living there currently.

But obviously there are lots of layers as we know in every property and when we look at the design of front doors like if we look at for example going back to Chartra's cathedral or any cathedral that's got an ogive arch you know that arched um yeah yeah that the geometry of that ogive arch is the golden mean harmonic the golden mean spiral which is the harmonic art so every time you're going through that doorway. It's reminding you to connect with your heart harmonic. That's how a doorway is programmed through sacred geometry to realign you, bring you to that stillness before you enter the sacred space. But our homes are sacred spaces. So we can look at our door and consciously tell it what we want to do.

give it a job to do whether it's protecting or let the world's stuff fall away as I come through it and I'm coming into my sanctuary because every home is a sanctuary and even when we look at um geopathic lines we can actually split those geopathic lines and divert them around the home and this is what we do with um stone circles or cathedrals you you take those end cuz they're all built on crossings of lines. Yeah. So you become the line and then you take the line into the around the building into the stone structure or the house into the brick work and so that becomes the yang structure allowing the inner space to be the feminine yin which allows it to be still and sacred. A that's amazing. That's amazing.

So you're so you're not trying to block energy. you're allowing it to feed the structure. So, it's like the masculine holding. Mhm. Allowing the feminine, and we're not necessarily talking about man and woman, but what what it does is it takes the the energetic noise out of the inner sanctum and allows us to be still and fall into our own stillness into that sacred place.

You know, I think one of my questions is um you know, you talked about, you know, these um etheric gateways in people's homes and everything. Um how do the modern developments interfere with some of these uh you know, I I suppose not classic, but you know, these these very old energetic portals that that were open and we come and put modern developments on top of that. Oh, it just it just happens. Yeah. Right.

That destroys things. Of course, there's so many developments that people have no sensitivity to the land or the spirit space. Yeah. If if people go on my website, the the under the architecture section, I I I've got nine I describe nine areas of how we approach building. Mhm.

Uh you know, first of all is is kind of the land uh and tuning into the land, respecting it. And if we got an open piece of land, you know, we then look for all the energy lines, we look for the fune spot, you know, where the best place to build something. And then we orientate it to the best sort of compass positions, sun, moon, etc., etc. And then we design it using sacred geometry and Feng Shui principles. Mhm.

Um but also it it before we cut into the land um you know there's the respect for the land you know asking permission of the land the elementals dig before we cut into the foundations and so on. So I've I've gone through a whole thing you know hope hoping that fellow architects might give it some but I I don't have much respect for architects I just say even though you know as one definitely disregard some of those funu principles and there I know they could be quite difficult to work with. I've never worked on a development or even building a new home or anything like that. So, um I haven't had that experience yet. That's what I love to do.

But most people realize it starts with the selecting a location and everything. Yeah, it starts with that. When when we when we look at the Indian system of Feng Shui vasra, it's so rich. which I was actually introduced to that because I was in a philosophy school say that studied a lot of the vic scriptures before fune. say in the early '9s I was looking at and I got documents on Vast which in a sense is way far more advanced or I would say more authentic than a lot of the fune you know uh but it's a it's the same bugwa but a different bugwa and a different approach and so if if you try to mix the two it'll just do your head in because it's like trying to mix a compass with a black hat you can and I do I work both together but that's not the answer to a solution for life anyway.

You got to look at what does someone need and then look at all the parameters. So I don't I don't start from a system. I'm going to use this system or that system. What does someone need? Where are they?

What's the house? And so I approach it from that aspect. Vtor Yeah, that was fascinating. What I started to read was um when you get a site apart from putting up a gnome on a pole to see where the sun is and you know sort of rising setting and that they would dig like a 1 ft cube earth and take it out of the earth. So you got a hole you created a hole and then you put that earth back.

Mhm. Then the next morning you come back and if it's risen it's a good sight. If it's sunk it's not fascinating. When I read that, I thought, yeah, that makes so much sense. Good life force.

Yeah, you know, the ancients, they really did go and look at look at the soil, animal patterns. Yeah. Very interesting. And and of course, the other thing that people laugh at is they would taste the soil. You imagine developers and architect going to a site now and tasting the soil.

Well, probably in London, you wouldn't want to, but Yeah. Yeah. here in Texas either our soil's very Yeah. Just just that concept. Yeah.

This is a good tasty bit of land to build on because if it's not nourishing to your taste, what's it going to do to your body when you live in it? Yeah. And then of course after that when you start building you build to sacred geometry and funu principles and then what about the materials you know are we using metal which cuts us off from heaven and earth. People who live in apartment blocks, you got steel mesh in the reinforced concrete above and below you. Yeah, that's cutting you off.

It's like a Faraday cage. So, that cuts your, you know, your natural feeding chi off. There are ways, and I've developed a way of actually neutralizing metal by going into its molecular structure and refining it. And I've tested that with concrete buildings. And people go in and feel a different and they think, "What have you done?" Mhm.

Incredible. So that that aggravation uh that thickness uh of concrete and steel turned to putty. Yeah. And I was teaching in Aman in Jordan uh to a group of 15 architects. One there was an architectural practice.

I was invited there and we spent a weekend and I and I got them to go out and get two of the same, you know, bit of concrete or brick and bring it into the class. And we worked on one uh which you know felt heavy. You they both felt heavy and you know concrete but quite aggressive and dense and to actually do the energy work of processing one of them through the heart energy through the golden mean bringing it the life force and then blind testing the two pieces. One felt soft and the other one felt heavy physically. Yeah.

So you can change it changes it changes it I suppose. Yeah totally but you can feel it you know it's not like you're imagining it. Yeah. But it's the same with space and and again I recorded years and years ago uh a hallway and it had some strange statues in it. But before and after the space clearing with incense and you know bells and shakers the sound was different and more refined afterwards.

So you could actually on the recording it was different. Yeah. Why shouldn't it be? Because we've refined the space, put it into sacredness. So, um it's fascinating all this work.

I'm excited talking about Yeah, it is fascinating. Um I'm trying to think going you talked about the codes being embedded by like printing words and stuff like that on a building. Do you think that I know the ancients they all had a almost a way of activating a space before they moved in and so they would lay stuff in foundations uh sacrifices there was all kinds of things that were either made or embedded into the space. Um and that just fascinates me. That fascinates me.

Well yeah that that's all part of these nine areas. You can read that on my architectural website, but but yeah, the the foundations and you know that ceremony and traditionally people would like kill an animal and its blood into the foundation. I'm think why you don't have to do that or wall people up. I've heard that too. They would wall a person into the basement.

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. The odd priest here and there, you know, bring them up into a wall, you know. It's but these beliefs, you know, abound and um it's not what it's about.

It's about just that honoring of the land. And ultimately, we're talking about when you're we're building foundations to actually program the found and this is another aspect of it which fascinates me because I've I've come across situations in New Jersey actually where um uh the building was an office building. Uh I got to be careful I don't identify it. Uh, it was an office building, but it was originally built for another purpose. Mhm.

And that other purpose, when I looked at it, it was like a a programcoded machine in the foundations that was running the purpose, the show of what the building was originally designed for. Yeah. So, someone comes along, they sell the building, they create an office for whatever business it is, and it's struggling in its identity. Yeah, that makes sense. And so it's about going in being able to read the code, which for me is like, you know, what I do for breakfast, you know, and feel read it and then change it.

But it's about um um one I can talk about openly is one in Kingston, not far from me here, a building um that the the woman wanted to use it for a goddess center. Mhm. But it was struggling and it had lots of concrete development going on around it. But when I was there on the first floor, I was looking into the the kitchen area and I could just see people in Edwwardian costume biddling around doing things. And I and I told the client and she said, "Oh, this floor in that room was being used for making medicines." So we're talking the Edwwardian period, 100 odd years ago, beginning of the uh last century.

Um, and they would sell the medicines on the ground floor. Mhm. And so it was actually the first one of the firsties uh it was actually one of the first buildings in Kingston to have electricity. Um not that that's necessarily relevant but um but this activity was still going on because I could see it really clearly. So the building was struggling in changing use.

So the whole concept of change of use of a building which every development does but who thinks to ask the building do you want to change? Yeah. I understand but if you don't that building is going to struggle with its identity and that's very much a topic at the moment isn't it? You know male female identity stuff interestingly. So, so I did a process of taking it from current time then down through the timeline year by year and every year I was going through I could see different animals and different scenarios like going through a theater play right back to its inception point because every building has an inception point, its birth.

Yes. that we were talking about before. We've got a piece of land. We're going to um and so the inception point is in the mind of the patron, the person who's going to want it, the owner if you like. And then they get that inception point.

It's like a seed point. In Sanskrit, we call that spot. It contains the code of what's going to become. So that code is then handed over to a designer or an architect who then creates the design and then you've got the building process. But at that inception point is the purpose of the building and that then runs right through to its completion and its activation and its ceremony and its opening ceremony and yeah we we've got uh we've now got a pharmacy built there.

So uh so went right back and said what is your what was your or what is your purpose as a building to serve the community of Kingston through medicine? Okay. So so I then asked it well serving the community of Kingston how about it being through being a goddess center. Mhm. So it didn't take away its purpose but it shifted it and there was a kind of acquiescence.

Fine. Great. And then like I took it back up the timeline to the present time at that time I did it all sorted. The building had no issue with its identity. Its change of use was by agreement with its soul.

You can't force a building to be a different function without creating havoc and disharmony. So a lot of buildings that have issues and problems and we go in and try to fix them with Feng Shui we got to get to the core se point you know way beyond the foundation the inception point. So I think if anyone listening working with Feng Shui always try to get to the inception point connect with the soul of the building what its purpose is and is it happy you know or does something need to change and we need to go back there feel it feel the love feel the heart do the transformation and you do it with the client by the way. Yeah, crucial. You know, it's not me going around doing, you know, changing buildings.

You got to take the client through every every step because it's their karmic connection. And um you I mean, I would assume this would extend into homes also. And so looking at history of previous tenants and stuff like that. I know um our home they it ended in a divorce for the people that previously lived here. And I mean I that's one of the reasons I discovered Funu because me and my husband were having a lot of marital problems.

And when I started learning about flame, I thought, "Oh my goodness, that is probably the energy we moved into." Yeah. Yeah. Coding program coding. Um it it's in the walls. It's in um Yeah.

I had that same thing when we moved from uh London, you know, worlds in Chelsea to Kingston about 40 years ago within months divorce proceedings. Yeah. and then discovered uh probably nearly nine years later when I discovered fune the relationship area in the black hat bwa the top right broken down greenhouse mhm okay we then built an extension there but that didn't make any difference because the pattern was in the house in the land and we discovered that the previous people divorced and after we sold the house the new people who bought it then divorced uh and so That pattern, that code needs to be resolved. But it's not the broken down greenhouse in my case that caused the divorce. We were attracted to it in order to exacerbate the relationship to enable it to divorce.

Yeah, I I've too. I think my husband's was to maybe heal our relationship because we're like I said, we're still married and so but I I do notice the length of time. We've lived here 12 years and that's a full cycle of the zodiac. And so I was telling him the other day, I think that's that was, you know, a that's lovely held back together, but for most people it goes one way and gets really nasty, but in my case, unfortunately, but um but uh yeah, that predecessor energy, it's a code and you can you cannot Feng Shui that out. You've got to get right back to the core and resolve the first instance that that happened.

And that can go back hundreds of years. Yeah. Is a new build. Thank Thank goodness. But yes, I can imagine in a building that's very old.

That was very yeah decades or maybe centuries of but even with a new building as we know depending on where it's built what was on that land before and what the energy lines the lay lines the vortexes connect too. So as we know if upstream from a geopathic line is a hospital you're going to get all that sickness coming through your house and so on. So, so neutralizing these these patterns, but again, it's not about let's get rid of those patterns. It's about understanding why we were drawn there or why the house called us there. I got quite quite a oh odd story about that with um there was one client who wanted me to to douse how much to bid for a house to to buy it.

And I hate that sort of question cuz you can get it so wrong, you know, think. Anyway, I I got it wrong. I thought I told her a price. So, she pitched that price in. She didn't get it.

Uh within a week later, she got it. Even though it wasn't the highest bid. Mhm. But when you dow, you ask for the highest and best for everyone and everything, taking everything into account. Yeah.

That kind of preempts the dowsing question. Yeah. And what transpired was the man who had lived there separated from his wife. He was really depressed and he committed suicide and he was desperate to find a woman to live with him to love him. So he called my client.

He made sure she was the one who bought the house. And when I went to the house after she moved in or she bought it, she hadn't moved in, but we went to uh do the uh house whispering bunray on it and clear the energy cuz it felt something wasn't right. And that's when I realized the full story of course, not not before then. So the dousing was right, but not what I'd hoped initially cuz I I thought I got it wrong, but in fact didn't. And um so I could sense the place in the kitchen where he committed suicide and you could really feel it and I just sort of see it and but the extraordinary thing was and she was happy for me to video the whole consultation and it was like three of us there, the guy who committed suicide, the client and me and he was part of all the conversations and he didn't hold back from telling her what he wanted from her in a relationship if she moved in.

um at every single sort of level as if he was alive and getting into a sort of physical intimate relationship. That's what he wanted. Um and she could feel his energy, you know, how can I put it, you know, very we've heard the stories before. It was but you know, like listening to this and feeling it and seeing him and and videoing it live, it was like I've never done anything with that video because it's probably a bit too intimate, but yeah. Um but it was fascinating but but it was so we understood why she bought why she was able to win the bid but you know it's time for you to go now.

Yeah. So you know we helped him release of course which I believe one should some people like to keep ghost as company. I come across that and I've got someone now who is living with a ghost. Um, and she's got a name for her and I say, "It's your choice. That's fine." But, you know, I'm not there to sort of clear every spirit.

I mean, I have nothing else to do otherwise. But, I mean, um, yeah, they're probably all around. It's what's your what's your story? What what do you need if you need a relationship? And I come across a lot of consultations where people are happy to be in a relationship with a spirit in another dimension.

Yeah. Um, and that's fine. It's not for me to say you shouldn't do that, but there was a a limitation as to sort of the the physical intimacy, but another story. Yeah, heard those stories before. Yeah, I'm sure.

Never a dull day with this work. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds fascinating. Um, it's taken it to another level. I think in my own funu practice, I do uh I think kind of what how you were saying earlier, there's definitely things you can improve in a house, but a lot of times I do tell the people, you know, it's it might just be the year, it might just be a season, maybe, you know, um you know, business can be bad.

Uh you know, we can have bad years, things can happen, you know. Um but kind of going back to maybe even like patterns, I look a lot at the bata. I do the eastern astrology and you know those four pillars and you can definitely see those patterns in there that self-awareness really just absolutely understanding what you're creating in your life can do amazing things to help break that um I mean very simply looking at the nine star key astrology very simp people to learn and understand and seeing those patterns of you know number one new beginnings you know uh you know sewing new seeds and that whole thing and we're going to have lows and highs uh and then when you're in a high it's like harness that, get on with it, you know, make the best of it because the following year things are going to be a bit sort of fow and um um but yeah, we can't ignore um although although what what I teach in the nine star key is something totally not traditional uh and I've not come across it in any uh um of the other other books or teaching is um if you've forgotten to make the best of a particular year because you didn't know about about it because I'm just telling you about it. You can go back in quantum time and make those changes in that reality and feed that back into your current time and it will change your life because as if you did do it but you didn't know about doing it. Interesting.

So I do nine key quantum maybe I should do a whole workshop on it actually. But so we we do have more control. Yes, we've got the stars and the and the planets and the influences and the moons and but I think we we are way above that if we choose to and we can within reason influence it quite a lot. Yeah. So I I I don't I don't hold with the stroke.

So some people say oh I can't do a session until the you know in this phase of the moon. I'm thinking all right darling whatever whatever you know it's fine I'll wait till you're happy. I was asked um if I scheduled stuff, you know, I do date selection and stuff like that and you know there's a point where it can control your life to the point where you wait for certain days and certain things and I don't agree with that. Just do you know like we scheduled our meeting today. I didn't look at the date.

I mean you know you have to to know that the universe will align to make things happen for it's like we know in something like many astrologers certainly in the nine key you don't travel in this direction on this date. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's not life.

If you got to do it, you got to travel, you got to go on business, the understanding is if you do is going to have this influence. Maybe you'll have some bumps. And if and if it's a bit bumpy or rough, do something to change it, make you feel better, you know, but as you say, don't let it run your life. Otherwise, you're slipping into the mechanical rut of fate, which, you know, don't believe in you. We have control.

So I think learning astrology of whatever sort uh is valuable to understand the mechanism but not to be run by it. Yeah. You know. Yeah. You don't want it to become dictated part of your life.

Yeah. Yes. I agree. Um but yeah, of course it's like buying and selling houses. I mean I love that when people say, "Oh, can you help me sell a house?" And the fastest I have ever sold a house is one hour from the hip hop.

Um, and but sometimes, you know, it's the next day or the next week. Sometimes it's not for months because the t there's something about timing that's not right and the person for the new person who's going to move in, it's not the right timing for them. So, it does come into it, but um um yeah. Yeah, I agree. I know when me and my husband were having a lot of relationship issues, we we really did we decided to divorce.

We even filed for divorce. As a matter of fact, we had we put our house in the market, but our house never sold. It never sold. And so we, you know, uh here we are still. Yeah.

Here we didn't want it to happen. Yeah. Time. It wasn't time. So the book The book.

Yes. It's available. Uh just go on my website. It's there's a link on my front page. Check it out.

Email me. If you want a signed copy, I can post it worldwide. Um yes, for sure. It looks amazing and just everything we've heard about it. It just seems like it mirrors your experience so much almost like the culmination of your work.

It it is actually. Yes. And it's called The Vessican for those listening on the audio and it's a multi-dimensional project. It features a book music and you're working on creating a series. That's amazing.

The movie series. Absolutely. That's the next challenge. Yeah. Wow.

Okay. Yes. I didn't know you had a house whisper book. I'll have to check all that out. I'll I'll go that.

I didn't know you had that one. Oh, yes. That is that is the Bible. It's beautiful. Incredibly thorough.

My editor did an amazing job of tabulating my That sounds like a must a must readad for a function enthusiast. That's available on Amazon. So, you can pick it up very easily uh um you know, next day uh anywhere in the world. And and the house whisper you can download as a Kindle read as well if you like. Awesome.

I prefer a real book. Yeah, I I like real books, too, because I like to I mean, you see my fun books here. Yeah, I like to, you know, I like to be able to go through and reference and all kinds of stuff, make notes, and, you know, that's just me. I'm a researcher. Well, thank you so much for joining me.

I'm so glad we got to finally connect and no Wi-Fi issues. I didn't realize you were out of the country when you or your original country when you Yeah, no worries. scheduled it so we could have, you know, waiting till today was just perfect. I I try to pretend I'm always around somewhere, but yeah. And and um yeah, I found I can do this on the on the screen.

Oh, yes. Here we go. Yeah, it's working. There we go. Okay.

Okay. I didn't know that you could do that. That's amazing. Thank you so much for appreciate it. Thank you so much.

All right. Lovely. Thank you. Thank you.